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this is much bigger than the mccain-obama debate. >> today mitt romney traveled from boston to colorado where the debate will be held as a major player in romney's fund raiser confirmed to fox business that a few new york donors have backed away from financial commitments to the romney campaign and instead said they will spend their money to help the republicans hold on to the house of represents and pick up seats in the senate. the debates will be very important, said one person with knowledge of the matter. if romney does well, that money could come back. >>> new jersey's governor, chris christie the current front runner for the presidential nomination 2016 has decided his job is to state the obvious. >> it's a huge night. we've had a bad couple of weeks and we want to turn this around and if you want to turn it around you've got to perform on the stage. they try to say the president is not that good a debater or mitt romney is a little scared of the president. those are the professional consultants and politicians who get paid to spin you guys. that's not what my job is. it's a big n
this is much bigger than the mccain-obama debate. >> today mitt romney traveled from boston to colorado where the debate will be held as a major player in romney's fund raiser confirmed to fox business that a few new york donors have backed away from financial commitments to the romney campaign and instead said they will spend their money to help the republicans hold on to the house of represents and pick up seats in the senate. the debates will be very important, said one person with...
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can't debate so change numbers. and laura igraham says, job numbers from labor secretary hilda solis are total pro obama. congressman allen west challenged the numbers, quote, chicago style politics is at work here. and, of course, rush limbaugh took time to get unreal. >> it's no different than obama declaring the temperature is going to be 75 degrees every day no matter what your thermometer says. >> that's the problem with the right and that's the problem with governor romney. ey can't stand the truth. things are getting better. joining me now is joan walsh, editor at large for salon.com and an msnbc political analyst. and e.j. dionne, columnist for "the washington post" and an msnbc contributor. joan, let me start with you. what's behind these conspiracy theories? >> they just don't want to accept the realities that the president has made things better, reverend al. i think you forgot one. rush, when hurricane ivan was -- rush accused president obama of messing with the weather or the weather service. i'm not su
can't debate so change numbers. and laura igraham says, job numbers from labor secretary hilda solis are total pro obama. congressman allen west challenged the numbers, quote, chicago style politics is at work here. and, of course, rush limbaugh took time to get unreal. >> it's no different than obama declaring the temperature is going to be 75 degrees every day no matter what your thermometer says. >> that's the problem with the right and that's the problem with governor romney. ey...
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when you look at when things started to move for obama, it was during the debates. specifically he made the case then right or wrong that he was a better steward of the economy than john mccain in troubled times. romney's got to make that case in 2012. >> little different when you're running against an incumbent. right? there's not a direct parallel there. >> look at the transcript. he was running against president bush. that these set of economic policies are wrong and i have a compelling vision. whether he can do that is another story. >> your colleague e.j. deion wrote journalists are in search of defining moments and game changers. by this standard, romney needs to game changer. obama can live quite happily without one. so do you think that mitt romney needs to have a big moment or if he is perceived to have won will at least give republicans some momentum. is that really the most reasonable thing to hope for? >> well, certainly it will. if the race were sort of fixed in time right now, everybody assumes that obama would win. in many ways that's happening becaus
when you look at when things started to move for obama, it was during the debates. specifically he made the case then right or wrong that he was a better steward of the economy than john mccain in troubled times. romney's got to make that case in 2012. >> little different when you're running against an incumbent. right? there's not a direct parallel there. >> look at the transcript. he was running against president bush. that these set of economic policies are wrong and i have a...
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president obama was first trying to shake off his lackluster debate performance. mitt romney trying to capitalize on his new momentum. and he's got a new response to that video where he talked about the 47% going beyond what his line has been that he spoke inelegantly. >> well, clearly in a campaign with hundreds, if not thousands of sechs and question and answer sessions, now and again you're going to say something that doesn't come out right. in this case i said something that's completely wrong. i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about 100% and that's been demonstrated throughout my life and this whole campaign is about the 100%. when i become president, it will be about helping the 100%. >> i want to bring in carl bernstein, ledge answered investigative journalist and rana assistant editor to "time" magazine. does this change the narrative? >> perhaps. i think we need to look at who mitt romney is in this campaign. what he's tried to do is shed his manacles of the far right of the tea party fringe of the party which has come to c
president obama was first trying to shake off his lackluster debate performance. mitt romney trying to capitalize on his new momentum. and he's got a new response to that video where he talked about the 47% going beyond what his line has been that he spoke inelegantly. >> well, clearly in a campaign with hundreds, if not thousands of sechs and question and answer sessions, now and again you're going to say something that doesn't come out right. in this case i said something that's...
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we know president obama and mitt romney will face off for the debate tomorrow. their wives have already gone head-to-head in the kitchen for "family circle's" annual cookie bake-off. michelle obama's white and dark cookie beat michelle obama's m&m cookie by 287 votes. "family circle" insists it's been a bellwether in four of the last five elections. paul ryan is singing a jingle for dubuque, iowa, ham. >> how about a song? one, two, three, ♪ dubuque, dubuque i was singing the song, the ham used to dance around a little bit? >> mitt romney has a new york yankees connection, turns out. sort of. romney's blind trust sold its financial stake in the yes network. >>> a new social media campaign asks you to listen to the boss. bruce springsteen is lending his name at "image" to support guy marriage. the goal is to pass new laws in maine, iowa and new hampshire. >>> k the white house glowed a lovely color of pink last night. it's estimated more than 200,000 women will be diagnosed with breast cancer in the u.s. just this year. >>> let's talk about another color, gray.
we know president obama and mitt romney will face off for the debate tomorrow. their wives have already gone head-to-head in the kitchen for "family circle's" annual cookie bake-off. michelle obama's white and dark cookie beat michelle obama's m&m cookie by 287 votes. "family circle" insists it's been a bellwether in four of the last five elections. paul ryan is singing a jingle for dubuque, iowa, ham. >> how about a song? one, two, three, ♪ dubuque, dubuque i...
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look, barack obama hasn't debated in four years. mitt romney has had a lot of debates in that time, but i do think it's worth noting, andrea, that all of mitt romney's debates have been against multiple people. there was never a time where he had a one on one debate against rick santorum or newt gingrich or rick perry. always debating four or five people who were really sort of aiming at him. he was the frontrunner throughout. barack obama had four debates against hillary clinton, one on one in the 2008 democratic primary, then three debates against john mccain. it's a different dynamic than to be the frontrunner where four or five people are aiming at you throughout a debate. >> here we are on the eve practically of the first debate and it's supposed to be an economic, domestic policy. >> right. >> and now foreign policy has reared its head. we have first of all mitt romney and "the wall street journal" an op-ed, saying that these developments are not as president obama says, mere bumps in the road. they are major issues that put o
look, barack obama hasn't debated in four years. mitt romney has had a lot of debates in that time, but i do think it's worth noting, andrea, that all of mitt romney's debates have been against multiple people. there was never a time where he had a one on one debate against rick santorum or newt gingrich or rick perry. always debating four or five people who were really sort of aiming at him. he was the frontrunner throughout. barack obama had four debates against hillary clinton, one on one in...
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>> that was chris matthews after the debate last night asking where was obama? for many the president seemed disengaged during that debate. the debate with charlie chris the republican governor of florida after leaving the party in the race for the u.s. senate. now he's supporting president obama. great to have you here with us today, sir. i want you to take a listen to what former congressman davis said to chris jansing last hour. take a look. >> isn't it telling last night that president obama himself did not bring up bain capital. isn't it telling that president obama himself did not accuse governor romney of causing women to die from cancer because of things that happened at companies he ran? isn't it telling that president obama didn't make much of this 47% gaffe a week ago. >> sir, why didn't the president bring up any of those things? were you watching this wondering that yourself? >> of course. i was watching it and some of the comments that i hear today make me think people were looking for entertainment instead of substance and facts. i was looking for
>> that was chris matthews after the debate last night asking where was obama? for many the president seemed disengaged during that debate. the debate with charlie chris the republican governor of florida after leaving the party in the race for the u.s. senate. now he's supporting president obama. great to have you here with us today, sir. i want you to take a listen to what former congressman davis said to chris jansing last hour. take a look. >> isn't it telling last night that...
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if you're governor rom any, he did very well in the debates and i think president obama is a good debater, not a great debater, to be frank about it. but the expectations game and the reality of what he has to accomplish is he has to go out there and change minds. and he has to do it when the fact is, when this is republicans ignored. they know him. they don't like his policies. >> go ahead, joe. >> i think that chris makes a great point. the 1980, ronald reagan really changed the course of the debate and helped himself by saying to americans, think back, are you better off today than you were four years ago, is it easier to get a job, are there fewer of you that are unemployed and by getting the american folks to concentrate on that as opposed to how much they like president carter really helped. >> that's a variation of the question that the romney campaign has been asking for several months and the results that they're getting based on the polling is not the answer that the romney campaign wants. >> well style matters in the debate. think about ronald reagan. jimmy carter had a lot of
if you're governor rom any, he did very well in the debates and i think president obama is a good debater, not a great debater, to be frank about it. but the expectations game and the reality of what he has to accomplish is he has to go out there and change minds. and he has to do it when the fact is, when this is republicans ignored. they know him. they don't like his policies. >> go ahead, joe. >> i think that chris makes a great point. the 1980, ronald reagan really changed the...
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, obama, romney, who's the better debater both have clear debate skills and shown those in their debates over the time. governor romney had very good debates in the republican primaries against his opponents and was very effective in those. president obama had some pretty good debates particularly the general election debates against senator mccain. the new format they're using i'm not sure it favors either candidate. it gives president obama a little bit more opportunity to talk at length which he wants to do about his record and about the things he's going to do going forward and also to draw some contrast with governor romney. for governor romney it may give him an opportunity rather than looking like he has canned answers to show people he's more thoughtful and warmer and more likable. >> dan balz, both warm and likable. thank you very much. thanks for being with us. >> thanks. >> up next, new questions about security and intelligence behind the benghazi terror attack. former ambassador to iraq chris hill joining us live here in denver. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" only
, obama, romney, who's the better debater both have clear debate skills and shown those in their debates over the time. governor romney had very good debates in the republican primaries against his opponents and was very effective in those. president obama had some pretty good debates particularly the general election debates against senator mccain. the new format they're using i'm not sure it favors either candidate. it gives president obama a little bit more opportunity to talk at length...
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how many debates did we step away, it's hillary, it's obama. but joe biden won this debate. i wrote that column four or five times in 2007, 2008. think way back. when joe biden first ran for president in the 1988 cycle. that was the plagiarism thing. but besides that, when he was running, this guy was the star order of the field. he was a young senator at the time but it was his oratory that set him apart from the rest of the field. i look at this and i say, i've always thought that obama's biggest weaknesses one of the weaknesses is debates. i think it's biden's biggest strength. i'm setting the bar really high. >> the onion teaches ruthlessly with that shirtless joe biden waxing his -- it's horrible, right? he's sort of an elder statesman of the party. you have the young upstart ryan. >> yeah. i mean, look, i agree with steve to a certain degree. i think this vice presidential debate will be reminiscent of 2000 when you had dick cheney and joe lieberman. two very smart individuals on the ticket. very thoughtful in terms of the vice presidential debate. there was not a lot
how many debates did we step away, it's hillary, it's obama. but joe biden won this debate. i wrote that column four or five times in 2007, 2008. think way back. when joe biden first ran for president in the 1988 cycle. that was the plagiarism thing. but besides that, when he was running, this guy was the star order of the field. he was a young senator at the time but it was his oratory that set him apart from the rest of the field. i look at this and i say, i've always thought that obama's...
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here's what obama said, here's what romney said at the debate. let's take a listen and talk about it on the other side. >> i'm not looking for a $5 trillion tax cut. what i've said is i won't put in place a tax cut that adds to the deficit. >> governor romney's central economic plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut. for 18 months, he's been running on this tax plan. now, five weeks before the election, he's saying his big, bold idea is never mind. >> all right. what what's the deal here? >> this is a complicated one. we have from the romney campaign a plan that has been analyzed by an independent group that said it would lead to around $450 billion a year in revenue that's cut from the -- revenue that's not there as a result of these taxes. the obama campaign has then taken this and extrapolated it over ten years, and they have arrived at $5 trillion. well, ten years times $450 billion doesn't get us to $5 trillion. so that's not quite right. but what is true is that the romney campaign, governor romney himself, has not explained what they're goin
here's what obama said, here's what romney said at the debate. let's take a listen and talk about it on the other side. >> i'm not looking for a $5 trillion tax cut. what i've said is i won't put in place a tax cut that adds to the deficit. >> governor romney's central economic plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut. for 18 months, he's been running on this tax plan. now, five weeks before the election, he's saying his big, bold idea is never mind. >> all right. what what's the...
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it will be quite interesting to see what happens the next debate when it will be obama who will be the underdog instead. >> there were times when the president made a point, all there was sometimes a little me andering to get there. let me play one of those examples. >> i've got to tell you, governor romney, when it comes to his own party during the course of this campaign, has not displayed that willingness to say no to some more extreme parts of his party. >> that, nick, was one of the tougher times that he actually made a point to mitt romney directly. >> much of the time when president obama made points, it was done in a very professorial way. this clearly is a huge exaggeration on the part of romney. president obama could have made the part of him walking away from paul ryan's own plan on this, that essentially it leads medicare to run out of money eight years earlier. and he could press romney on why on earth he wants to redistribute money from ordinary taxpayers to hospital company shareholders. he didn't do any of that. >> speaking of pressing, which was 47%? when was bain capi
it will be quite interesting to see what happens the next debate when it will be obama who will be the underdog instead. >> there were times when the president made a point, all there was sometimes a little me andering to get there. let me play one of those examples. >> i've got to tell you, governor romney, when it comes to his own party during the course of this campaign, has not displayed that willingness to say no to some more extreme parts of his party. >> that, nick, was...
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that's where he made his mistakes during the primary debates. and obama has a tendency to ramble. and i think that's going to be interesting to watch. >> listen, i think the reality is that when the challenger gets the opportunity to stand on the same stage, feet from the president of the united states, and go toe-to-toe, and offer without any media fundamentalad press densz densy, i think it will make a difference. >> romney had a conversation with "good morning america" about that. let me play a portion and have you respond to it in particular. >> i think he's going to say a lot of things that aren't accurate. but i think that the challenge that i'll have in the debate is that the president tends to, how shall i say it, say things that aren't true. and in attacking his opponents. >> give me an example of what he would want to attack, what the president has done, and how you think romney will handle it. >> well, i think president obama has, and i want to be charitable here, has a casual relationship with the truth. he's very eloquent. he's extremely articulate. he is very bright.
that's where he made his mistakes during the primary debates. and obama has a tendency to ramble. and i think that's going to be interesting to watch. >> listen, i think the reality is that when the challenger gets the opportunity to stand on the same stage, feet from the president of the united states, and go toe-to-toe, and offer without any media fundamentalad press densz densy, i think it will make a difference. >> romney had a conversation with "good morning america"...
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president obama says his record on foreign affairs speaks for itself. yet a may gallup polls show vets favor governor romney. in fact, during wednesday's debate governor romney reiterated his commitment to strengthen the nation's military. >> we have a responsibility to protect the lives and liberties of our people, and that means a military second to none. i do not believe in cutting our military. i believe in maintaining the strength of america's military. >> so let's bring in beau biden, attorney general for the state of delaware. he is also a major in the delaware national guard having served a 12-pomonth deployment iraq. he's also the vice president's son. mitt romney has hammered president obama for the automatic military cuts that could take place as a result of congress failing to reach a debt deal. even the defense secretary said the cuts could be staef dating. does that hurt the president in the vet community? >> number one, congress must act and avoid sequestration op any of these defense cuts. number two, you know, governor romney seems to c
president obama says his record on foreign affairs speaks for itself. yet a may gallup polls show vets favor governor romney. in fact, during wednesday's debate governor romney reiterated his commitment to strengthen the nation's military. >> we have a responsibility to protect the lives and liberties of our people, and that means a military second to none. i do not believe in cutting our military. i believe in maintaining the strength of america's military. >> so let's bring in...
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and obama has a tendency to ramble. i think that's going to be interesting to watch. >> i think the reality is that when the challenger gets the opportunity, to stand on the same stage, feet from the president of the united states and go toe to toe and offer without a media filter, a devastating critique of his failed leadership over the last four years, it's going to make a difference in this race. >> one of the things, ralph, if i can interrupt. this is something that romney says he wants to do in the debates. he had a conversation with "good morning america" about that. let me play a portion and have you respond. >> i think he's going to say a lot of things that aren't accurate. i think that the challenge that i'll have in the debate is that the president tends to how shall i say it? say things that aren't true. and in attacking his opponents. >> give me an example of what he would want to attack. what the president has done, and how you think romney will handle it. >> well i think president obama has, and i want to
and obama has a tendency to ramble. i think that's going to be interesting to watch. >> i think the reality is that when the challenger gets the opportunity, to stand on the same stage, feet from the president of the united states and go toe to toe and offer without a media filter, a devastating critique of his failed leadership over the last four years, it's going to make a difference in this race. >> one of the things, ralph, if i can interrupt. this is something that romney says...
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he's just not a great debater. >> look whose feelings of barack obama came back to her. i guess what happened in charlotte stayed in charlotte. >> when american markets broke down, who jump started our engine? barack obama! and when america needed him most, who got us rolling again on the road to recovery? >> but let me ask you this, people, who couldn't get laid in a whore house with a first full of hundreds! barack obama. >> i still can't get over her speech. alex, will you please get some clips of that. i want to go back in time. that was -- >> when she was on the dating game. have you seen the clip from the dating game? >> that was fantastic. no, i found her to be riveting at the convention. >> she was riveting. >> i could not take my eyes off her. >> the way that charlie sheen is riveting. >> it was unbelievable. why not? let's throw it out there. >> stay in your own zone. don't channel jennifer granholm here? >> you don't think that'd be attractive. >> what does extreme mika look like. >> i could do the tease as granholm. what do you think? >> do some extreme mika.
he's just not a great debater. >> look whose feelings of barack obama came back to her. i guess what happened in charlotte stayed in charlotte. >> when american markets broke down, who jump started our engine? barack obama! and when america needed him most, who got us rolling again on the road to recovery? >> but let me ask you this, people, who couldn't get laid in a whore house with a first full of hundreds! barack obama. >> i still can't get over her speech. alex,...
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you know, if, like, al gore, you have president obama losing three debates, it can happen. but let's say you lose ohio, suddenly mitt romney has to win north carolina. he has to win virginia. he has to win iowa. he has to win new hampshire. he has to win colorado. he has to win nevada. and, of course, he has to win florida, which he's losing now. by the way, if you don't win florida, we're not even having this discussion. let's talk about what we're getting for christmas. >> it's clear that in looking for a path to 270 electoral votes for romney without ohio, we're neither predicting or hoping it will happen, we're simply running the numbers. ohio is -- >> are we going to have to caveat for the rest of the year? >> almost always, just for that. the left is still a little restive. >> particularly fox news is in on the conspiracy polls. >> closing the auto bailout, not strong support from evangelicals, and it's more of a populist state than some of these others. so he can get to 270 without ohio because there may be a rising tide that lifts all the other battleground states,
you know, if, like, al gore, you have president obama losing three debates, it can happen. but let's say you lose ohio, suddenly mitt romney has to win north carolina. he has to win virginia. he has to win iowa. he has to win new hampshire. he has to win colorado. he has to win nevada. and, of course, he has to win florida, which he's losing now. by the way, if you don't win florida, we're not even having this discussion. let's talk about what we're getting for christmas. >> it's clear...